Poker Advocacy with Rich Muny: AIRS LIVE TUESDAYS AT 8 PM ET / 5 PM PT

On this week's Poker Advocacy with Rich Muny webcast, I answered questions about PPA, discussed anti-online poker bill S. 3376, Sheldon Adelson's push to ban online poker, and the importance of activism. Please be sure to check it out.


**** Weekend #Fight4Poker ****

• Let's send poker tweets to PA state senators via the PPA PA Action Page. If sending more than eight tweets at one time, you may wish to wait ten minutes or so between batches of eight, so Twitter doesn't think it's automated:
► PPA PA Action Page:
► DAP Tweet:

• Let's make & like pro-poker tweets in reply to four anti-poker lawmakers, letting them know how we feel about that:
► Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH):
► Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL):
► Rep. Mia Love (R-UT):
► Rep. John Mica (R-FL):

• Please share & like today's action plan:

Thanks for participating!

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Comment by Michael Perry on July 25, 2016 at 8:31pm

Keep up the fight Rich 

Comment by Rich Muny on March 27, 2013 at 5:23pm

The show has a new URL:!

Comment by Sheryl on June 25, 2012 at 8:59pm

I have a question.
[7:49:02 PM] Sheryl (sajeffe): poker pro Shannon Shorr just tweeted this: "Great turnout, 1600+, for a Monday #WSOP $2500 event. Let's all do our part this week to promote the game to keep these numbers going."  Does Gary have any idea why no poker pros advocate for ONLINE poker?  Thanks.

Comment by BSO Susan (Sucifer) on June 5, 2012 at 9:45am

Let's keep the game we love alive!

Comment by Rich Muny on May 29, 2012 at 2:22am

Thanks Eric!

Comment by Curtis Woodard on May 28, 2012 at 10:19pm

@Patrick Fleming, @Rich Muny  is there any effort that you are aware of to change the law in WA State? has anyone looked at the initiative process to correct what was essentially a pay-off to the State's tribal gaming interests?

Comment by GUNNAH WABBIT on May 28, 2012 at 8:33pm


Comment by Rich Muny on May 21, 2012 at 9:32pm

Please be sure to follow us on Facebook and Twitter!

Comment by Rich Muny on February 20, 2012 at 10:34pm

Thanks Robin!

Comment by ColoPoker on February 19, 2012 at 11:26pm

Thank you for using Poker Players Alliance Mail System.


Message sent to the following recipients:

Attorney General Suthers

Governor Hickenlooper

Representative Looper

Senator King

Yes i  sent a new letter to my reps, it is so easy and fast.

Comment by Sheryl on February 19, 2012 at 3:56pm

I hope everyone at this site is doing the action plan every day.  It's so easy and it does help.  Thanks, Rich.

Comment by Rich Muny on February 10, 2012 at 1:32am

Thanks Sheryl!

Comment by Sheryl on February 6, 2012 at 3:19pm

Done with today's action plan!  Thanks for making it so easy for everyone to participate on a daily basis, Rich. 

Comment by Rich Muny on January 24, 2012 at 2:42pm

We had another great show last night with PPA's Drew Lesofski. I've been fortunate to have interesting and informative guests.

I hope everyone will check out the archives and will tune in each Monday evening!

Comment by Rich Muny on December 7, 2011 at 5:24am

The interview with Gov. Johnson has been posted. I hope everyone will find it interesting and informative!

Comment by BSO SSexyOTR~HBIC on December 5, 2011 at 4:58pm

Thank you for that information Patrick, I have been wondering that for a while now and want to keep folks out of any "Hot" water with our Govt. Too much here to jeopardize for just a few pennies a month.

Comment by Danny Ocean (@OnTiltRadio) on December 5, 2011 at 4:25pm

Good advice Patrick! Thanks!

Comment by Rich Muny on December 5, 2011 at 3:37pm

Thanks Patrick!

Comment by Patrick Fleming on December 5, 2011 at 10:23am

Hello Fellow Poker Enthusiasts!

Patrick Fleming here, the PPA's Litigation Support Director and member of the Board of Directors. Many of you will know me as "Skallagrim" - my screen name on many poker forums. I am a lawyer and Rich has asked me to post here regarding requests for legal information.

And the first issue involves the legality of affiliates, specifically those who receive "rakeback" from poker sites for players who join the poker site through banners.

Like most areas regarding poker, the internet, and the law, this one has no direct and easy answer. There are no Federal laws that directly target affiliates and to date no affiliate (at least as far as I have heard) has been prosecuted by Federal or state authorities.

There is, however, the legal doctrine of "aiding and abetting." This also sometimes called accomplice liability. Essentially, if you are helping someone else do something illegal you can be held just as guilty as the principal wrongdoer. To be an accomplice 3 things need to be established: a crime, an act that helped the crime occur, and an intent to further the criminal activity.

As we all know, the US Government considers providing online poker to US residents an illegal act. If they are right about that, then it is not hard to see them considering affiliates to have "aided and abetted" that illegal act if the affiliate is directing US players to a site and collecting money for the US player playing at the site. Its kind of like the guy who leads you through the alleys and backstreets to find the underground casino.

Of course, it is not exactly like that. An affiliate has no control over who clicks on its banners and it is an open question whether the affiliate or the clicker is the one responsible for complying with the law regarding the legality of playing from a particular place. A clicker could be from the UK (where online poker is quite legal) just as easily as from the US.

In the end, details will matter significantly as to whether any particular affiliate arrangement is sufficient to establish "aiding and abetting." 

But the possibility of such a prosecution is real. therefore, anyone who is in the affiliate/rakeback business should consult with an attorney individually so that all details of the business can be discussed and a full analysis of legal liability provided.

I hope that information helps. For those in the business needing actual advice, the only advice I can give here in a public forum is to hire a lawyer and go over the details of your business with that lawyer.

Hope that helps.

Patrick Fleming

Comment by Danny Ocean (@OnTiltRadio) on November 29, 2011 at 8:06am

Well done Rich! Greg was great, please thank him for all of us at OTR and the community. Hope he can come back soon.

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